Jay Vincent with HITuni Founder, Simon Shawcross
I workout every 9 days … I’ve personally never seen a “bulk” work.
~ Jay Vincent
Jay Vincent is a nationally recognized personal trainer, health coach, and professional fitness model. As the owner of BioFit (two locations in New York), Jay’s mission is to instruct highly effective, time efficient, and safe exercises for people of all ages, goals, and physical conditions. Jay has been featured on many popular podcasts, magazines, and has modelled for popular athletic companies such as Under Armour and MuscleTech.
This is Jay’s fourth appearance on the podcast. Check out his previous episodes here:
- Jay Vincent Interview: How To Build An Amazing Body In Less Than 40-Minutes Per Week
- How To Build A $12k Per Month HIT Business In 5 Months – Jay Vincent
- One Meal A Day, Workout Freestyling VS Tracking, And How To Improve Grip Strength – Jay Vincent
In this episode, Jay talks about his latest views on how to get the most out of high intensity training, how to attract seniors to your HIT Business, how to close more initial consultations, and much, much more.
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Show Notes
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- The moment Jay fell in love with HIT [6:30]
- How much muscle did Jay gain pre and post HIT? [9:57]
- Jay Vincent’s current training volume and frequency [16:20]
- Jay Vincent’s diet in detail [21:20]
- The importance of genetics [24:05]
- Jay’s thoughts on “bulking up” [30:12]
- What has Jay focused on to grow BioFit fast? [35:35]
- The BioFit branding and signage strategy [43:30]
- Why did Jay target seniors in his second studio? [44:50]
- The BioFit marketing strategy [47:40]
- What is the roadmap for BioFit? [59:00]
- Jay’s thoughts about his growing personal brand [1:05:35]
- Jay’s NEW HITuni bodybuilding program [1:17:25]
- My thoughts on HITuni.com [1:22:35]
- Jay Vincent’s personal training consultation tips [1:25:00]
- Jay’s thoughts on training “novelty” for retention [1:37:45]
Selected Links from the Episode
- Paleo Diet & Strength Training Biochemistry | Doug McGuff M.D. | Full Length HD
- Body by Science: A Research Based Program for Strength Training, Body building, and Complete Fitness in 12 Minutes a Week by Dr Doug McGuff and John R. Little
- The 21 Convention
- HITuni interviews with Jay – Jay Vincent, Personal Trainer, Fitness Model and Entrepreneur, Representing a New Generation of HIT
- MedX
- Resistance Exercise Conference 2019
- Dr Doug McGuff – Why You Should NOT Bulk Up (#161)
- Max Contraction Training: The Scientifically Proven Program for Building Muscle Mass in Minimum Time by John Little
- Discover Strength
- Ultimate Exercise (Dr Doug McGuff’s HIT studio)
- Drew Baye’s HIT List
- NPC
- Orange Theory Fitness
- Resistance Training Volume Enhances Muscle Hypertrophy but Not Strength in Trained Men
- In a Hurry? Try Express Weight Training
- CrossFit
People Mentioned
- Simon Shawcross (Listen to my episodes with Simon here: Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3)
- Dr Doug McGuff (Listen to my episodes with Doug here: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, and Part 5)
- Anthony Johnson
- Mike Mentzer
- Skyler Tanner (Listen to my episodes with Skyler here: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, and Part 6)
- John Little (Listen to my episodes with John here: Part 1, and Part 2)
- Drew Baye (Listen to my episodes with Drew here: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, and Part 7)
- Dr Wayne Westcott (Listen to my episode with Wayne here: Part 1 and Part 2)
- Dr Brad Schoenfeld (Listen to my episodes with Brad here: Part 1 and Part 2)
- Luke Carlson (Listen to my podcasts with Luke here: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, and Part 6)
401 – How to Set Up a New HIT Studio for Success with Mike Petrella
Podcast Transcript: 341 – How to Find HIT Trainers and Promote your Strength Studio
I appreciate Jay’s forthrightness about the genetic origins of his impressive physique. However, I wonder how many will acknowledge what he says intellectually, and still go ahead and buy the bodybuilding course because they hope to learn how to look more like Jay. Seems humans are hard wired with some pretty powerful cognitive biases.
MANY will buy his course because of how he looks. I’m fine with that, because as per the episode, Jay is the trojan horse to safe, efficient and effective exercise for potentially thousands of people.
Unless they later quit and chase after some other program that promises to add the slabs of muscle they thought they would get from Jay’s approach. I think that kind of program hopping happens pretty often with younger guys who are chasing outcomes that are not realistic.
Older subjects are less likely to have outlandish ambitions. To them, Jay’s appearance merely says this guy knows what he is doing. So if that gets them in the door, I suppose no harm is done.
Yes the way I see it is if my physique is going to help get the RIGHT information out there, I’m going to use it as a tool. I have a problem with the idiots in the fitness industry using their physiques to sell garbage supplements or awful workout plans so you will never see me doing that. Unfortunately, people with physiques similar to mine have never researched exercise science or have become exposed to proper exercise physiology because building muscle came so easy to them; they didn’t need to. I’m going to use every tool available to promote safe, effective and efficient exercise.
It’s bizarre. I was telling a client his morning about my previous training protocol; many clients have this question. To put it into perspective, I began training hard when I was 18. From 18-24 I put on about 10 measly pounds. Around 24-25 I adopted high intensity training principles. Since then, from 24-28, I have put on 30lbs. My body fat is 9% so that leads me to believe almost all of it is muscle. The only variables changed was higher intensity of effort and lower volume frequency. So if bodybuilders want to remain in their plateau and practice the true definition of insanity, they can be my guest. Or they can put their ego aside and learn from me. The proof is in the pudding as they say.
Yes, your N=1 result is intriguing. But I wonder how common it is?
My impression is that, for most people, doing more volume doesn’t yield better results. But it also doesn’t yield poorer results (excepting, perhaps, the person who uses an extraordinarily high amount of volume). At least that has been my experience.
Most of the scientific studies comparing single vs multiple sets seem to show either (1) a modest benefit to doing more sets, or (2) no benefit. I can’t recall a single study where more sets gave worse results, which is what you seem to have experienced.
So maybe your contrary experience marks you as an outlier in more ways than just having an exceptional physique?
The vast majority of bodybuilders and fitness folk are very arrogant/stubborn and will not listen to reason . Arguing/debating with them is futile .
Great episode enjoyed it!
Jay said that he is only working out to maintain now. Would he recommend working out more frequently for goals around gaining muscle?
Yes I would recommend working out more frequently for building muscle more quickly. But again, adding another day of training per week isn’t 2x as good, but it will get you to your goal faster. Not twice as fast, but certainly faster. I have no particular strength or bodybuilding goals currently so I am giving my body just enough stress to maintain my currently level of strength and body composition.
Jay you mentioned using Max Contraction in your workouts. When you apply it, is it in addition to what you are doing for that body part or just the one contracted set and move on?
Greg. Remember that for these studies they are not using advanced trainees. An advanced trainee has developed the ability to inroad far more than someone just starting a workout program or an average gym goer. Your ability to inroad will improve the longer you train (in most cases) but your ability to recover from workouts remains the same. You’ll be able to “get much more” out of a set of exercise after a year of training compared to day 1. This is why I see negative results from higher volume and more frequency. I have the ability to inroad so deep that it is very easy for me to over train. Genetic predispositions will play a role into this as well, specifically muscle fiber type distribution. Those with a high distribution of fast twitch motor units will inroad deeper, more quickly. They’ll likely see no benefit or even negative outcome to higher volume or multiple sets. Simply keeping records of your progress will help you determine what volume and frequency can work for you. If it appears you are tolerating a higher volume, go for it if you’d like. There’s nothing wrong with it if it isn’t counterproductive.
As far as max contraction goes, I’ll usually use it for just one of the exercises In a workout. The other exercises will just be one set to failure. Max contraction works great for a lagging muscle group or for simply adding a little variation to your workout.
Great show ! I just finished listening on Youtube !
Thanks Enlite
Have you found that max contraction is more joint friendly? Have you used max contraction with some of your older clients?
The vast majority of bodybuilders and fitness folk are very arrogant/stubborn and will not listen to reason . Arguing/debating with them is futile .