If you are visiting this page, you may have been directed here from one of our other sites. We have a firm and continuing commitment to the privacy of personal information provided by those visiting and interacting with any website controlled by High Intensity Business and have created this policy to apply across our various websites and apps.
We hold the privacy of your personal information in the highest regard and this privacy notice provides you with details of how we collect and process your personal data through your use of our sites to enable you to make informed decisions about your personal information.
By providing us with your data, you warrant to us that you are over 13 years of age
When we talk about ‘us’ ‘we’ or ‘our’, we mean High Intensity Business or Corporate Warrior Ltd, 11 Ingleby Road, Ilford, Essex, UK, IG1 4RX and we are the operator of the website from which you accessed this privacy policy and any other websites or apps controlled by High Intensity Business (collectively ‘website’). We are the data controller and we are responsible for your personal data.
When we talk about ‘you’, we mean you as a participant or user of this website or services of this website.
‘Personal information’ is information that directly identifies you, such as your name and email address, or data that could be used, on its own or in combination with other data, to identify you.
It is very important that the information we hold about you is accurate and up to date. Please let us know if at any time your personal information changes by issuing a ticket at support [email protected]
1. Staying Anonymous
You can browse our online services anonymously. However, if you request information, sign up for our communications or podcast or purchase any of our products or services, you will need to identify yourself and at that point we will collect your personal information. If you do not give personal information to us, it will affect our ability to provide you with requested information or to deliver our products or services.
2. Collecting personal information
At all times we aim to only collect the minimum information we need for the services we are providing and to only use the information for the purpose it has been provided. For example, if you sign up to our newsletter, we will collect and use your email address to send our newsletter. As you would expect, the more involved you are with us, the more information about you we will collect.
There are some unusual terms in new legislation that affect how we tell you about the way we manage your personal information. One is letting you know the ‘lawful ground’ for what we do. This just means we are letting you know that there is a provision in the legislation that says it is alright for us to collect or use your information for a purpose that is considered a ‘legitimate interest’ of our business.
The main way we collect information about you is when you give it to us and this can happen in a variety of ways. We may process the following categories of personal information about you:
- Communication data: which includes any communication that you send to us. This might be when you join our mailing list or when you contact us through the contact form on our website, through email, text, social media messaging, social media posting or any other communication that you send us. Communication data may also include geographical data if you enable this within our app so that we can send you communications relevant to your geographical location. We process this data for the purposes of communicating with you, for record keeping and for the establishment, pursuance or defence of legal claims. Our lawful ground for this processing is our legitimate interest in replying to communications sent to us, keeping appropriate records and to establish, pursue or defend legal claims.
- Customer Data: which includes data you give to us when you purchase goods and/or services from us including any of our business training programs or events. This will include basic information about you and the information we require for billing purposes such as your name, title, billing address, delivery address email address, phone number, contact details, purchase details and your card details (last digits only). We use third party services for processing payments such as PayPal, EWay and Stripe and we do not receive or store your full card payment information. We process this data to supply the goods and/or services you have expressed an interest in or purchased and to keep records of such transactions. Our lawful ground for this processing is the performance of a contract between you and us and/or taking steps at your request to enter into that contract and our legitimate business interest of keeping records for accounting purposes.
- User Data: which includes data about how you use our website and any online services together with any data that you post for publication on our website or through other online services. We process this data to operate our website and ensure relevant content is provided to you, to ensure the security of our website, to maintain back-ups of our website and/or databases and to enable publication and administration of our website, other online services and business. Our lawful ground for this processing is our legitimate interest in properly administering our website and our business.
- Technical Data: which includes data about your use of our website and online services such as your IP address, your login data, details about your browser, length of visit to pages on our website, page views and navigation paths, details about the number of times you use our website, time zone settings and other technology on the devices you use to access our website. The source of this data is from our analytics tracking system. We process this data to analyse your use of our website and other online services, to administer and protect our business and website, to deliver relevant website content and advertisements to you and to understand the effectiveness of our advertising. Our lawful ground for this processing is our legitimate interest in properly administering our website and our business and to grow our business and to decide our marketing strategy.
- Marketing Data: which includes data about your preferences in receiving marketing from us and our third parties and your communication preferences. We process this data to enable you to partake in our online services, to deliver relevant website content and advertisements to you and measure or understand the effectiveness of this advertising. We may use surveys or contests to request information and you are not required to enter or use these services. Our lawful ground for this processing is our legitimate interest in studying how customers use our products/services, developing our products, growing our business and to decide our marketing strategy.
- We may use Customer Data, User Data, Technical Data and Marketing Data to deliver relevant website content and advertisements to you (including Facebook adverts, YouTube advertising or other display advertisements) and to measure or understand the effectiveness of the advertising we serve you. We may use pixels for retargeting to do this. Our lawful ground for this processing is legitimate interest in growing our business. We may also use such data to send other marketing communications to you. Our lawful ground for this processing is either consent or legitimate interests (namely to grow our business).
3. Collecting information from third parties
As discussed above, we collect personal information about you when you give it to us and when it is collected by our website however we may also collect personal information that is given to us or available to us by a third party (for example, information that is on a publicly maintained record or that you have made available on a public platform).
We may automatically collect certain data from you as you use our website by using cookies and similar technologies.
We may receive data from third parties such as analytics providers like Google, advertising networks such as Facebook, information providers such as Google, providers of technical, payment and delivery services, such as data brokers or aggregators. These third parties may be within the EU or outside of the EU.
This information forms part of the personal information described in this policy. We will not intentionally collect personal information that is unintentionally disclosed.
4. Collecting sensitive information
We do not intend to collect sensitive information about you and request you never disclose information about your health, racial or ethnic origin, political opinions, religious beliefs or sexual orientation on our website or any blog or social media account associated with our website or business. If you include your photograph in our online forum please be aware that other forum users may make assumptions about your racial or ethnic background.
5. Children’s privacy
Our services are not designed to be used by minors under the age of 13 and we do not intend to collect information about such minors. We will make reasonable endeavours to delete any details of users under the age of 13 years where a parent or guardian has notified us that any such details have been obtained. By providing us with your data, you warrant to us you are over the age of 13. If you are over 13 but under 18 you may be able to use our services however only with permission and guidance from your parents or guardian and we request that their personal information be used not yours.
6. Testimonials
If you provide us with a testimonial, you give us your consent for the use of your name, likeness and the date of service delivery to be displayed on our website or in our other marketing material, together with the content of the testimonial that you provide. We may edit your testimonial but will only do so where possible without changing the meaning of what you have said. We may store and/or use your testimonial for a period of up to 7 years from the date it is given. We process this information based on your consent which you may withdraw.
7. Marketing Communications
Our lawful ground of processing your personal data to send you marketing communications is either your consent or our legitimate interests (namely to grow our business). Sometimes we may recommend sharing your information with a third party for their marketing purposes. Before we share your personal data with any third party for their own marketing purposes we will get your express consent.
You can ask us or third parties to stop sending you marketing messages at any time by following the opt-out links on any marketing message sent to you or by emailing us.
If you opt out of receiving marketing communications, this opt-out does not apply to personal data provided for other transactions such as purchases.
8. Social Networking Services and links to other websites
You can connect with us via our social media pages on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Twitter and LinkedIn.
We may provide links to other websites or use social networking services to communicate with the public about our work. When you communicate with us using these services we may collect your personal information. The social networking service will also handle your personal information for its own purposes and have their own privacy policies. You should become familiar with the privacy policies of any service you use.
9. How we use Cookies and other identifiers
We use a range of tools provided by third parties including our website host, third party service providers and search engine browsers to collect or view access and traffic information for statistical, reporting and maintenance purposes. Third party providers have their own privacy policies. We also may also use tracking pixels, cookies and session tools to improve your experience when accessing our online services.
The data collected by cookies does not usually identify you but may be combined with other information to identify you. If we identify you using information from cookies, we may use that information to track how you use our online services and send you information more specific to your needs, or to invite you to purchase our services.
The kind of information that can be collected includes:
- device specific information such as mobile network information
- server logs including your IP address, the times you use our services and system activity
- location information including IP address, GPS, and Wi-Fi access points
- local storage availability
We use the information to help to track your use of our online services to improve your user experience and the quality of our services.
10. Use and disclosure of personal information
In summary, as a legitimate business interest, the personal information we collect about you is used:
- to verify your identity
- to enable you to use our services
- to process orders, registrations and enquiries
- to provide you with information about events, products and services that may interest you
- to provide you with personalised service or special opportunities
- to allow you to participate in interactive features of our online services
- to run competitions, prize draws, and promotions (if any)
- to facilitate our internal business operations
- to improve our products or services and in planning new products or services
- to conducting market research surveys
- to monitor compliance with our Terms and Conditions.
With your consent or at your request we may:
- share your contact information with third party organisations who offer products or services that may be of interest to you (if you agree to receive such information)
We never sell, lend or lease your identifiable personal information.
We may also disclose your information to:
- Other companies in our group who provide services to us.
- Third party suppliers we engage to provide services which involve processing data on our behalf, for example IT and system administration services. In this case, we will require them to use that information only for the purpose of providing the services we have requested, and in compliance with the provisions of this privacy policy.
- Payment third parties if there is a dispute over a payment. For example if PayPal contacts us regarding a dispute over a payment, we will provide PayPal with user activity information such as IP address and activity linked to the IP address, billing details on our system etc to allow the payment dispute to be resolved.
- Professional advisers including accountants, lawyers, bankers, auditors and insurers.
- Government bodies that require us to report processing activities.
- Third parties where we are required to in accordance with the law and reserve the right to fully co-operate with any law enforcement authorities or court order requiring or requesting us to disclose the identity or other usage details of any user of our online services, or in accordance with a properly executed court order, or as otherwise required to do so by law.
11. Security and overseas recipients
We are committed to ensuring that your information is secure to industry standards however no system can be 100% secure and, provided we have acted in accordance with this policy, we are not responsible for loss you may suffer should your personal information be unlawfully accessed. Using the Internet to collect and process personal data necessarily involves the transmission of data on an international basis.
Not all countries have the same level of privacy protection as the country within which you reside. You acknowledge and agree to our processing of personal data across international borders in this way. We will do our best to ensure your data is protected to a similar standard as set out in this policy by using third party providers with similar privacy protections.
We will also take reasonable steps to protect all personal information within our direct control from misuse, interference, loss, unauthorised access, unlawful or accidental destruction, modification or disclosure. To prevent unauthorised access or disclosure we use respected hosting services, firewall and other electronic security procedures and managerial procedures to safeguard and secure the information we collect from you.
We have procedures in place to deal with any suspected personal data breach and will notify you and any applicable regulator of a breach if we are legally required to.
12. Opt-out/ unsubscribe
If we provide you with the opportunity to receive information about products or services from other carefully selected organisations (our business partners) about the products or services they offer, and you elect to do so, you can change your preferences at any time using the unsubscribe function within their emails.
Similarly, our marketing emails/newsletters will also have an unsubscribe option if you would like to opt-out. You can also update your subscription settings if you are a subscriber.
If you continue to receive communications you have unsubscribed from, please contact us by issuing a ticket at support [email protected] and we will remedy the problem.
13. Data retention
We will only retain your personal data for as long as necessary to fulfil the purposes we collected it for, including for the purposes of satisfying any legal, accounting, or reporting requirements.
When deciding what the correct time is to keep the data for we look at its amount, nature and sensitivity, potential risk of harm from unauthorised use or disclosure, the processing purposes, if these can be achieved by other means and legal requirements.
For tax purposes the law requires us to keep basic information about our customers (including Contact, Identity, Financial and Transaction Data) for five years after they stop being customers.
In some circumstances we may anonymise your personal data for research or statistical purposes in which case we may use this information indefinitely without further notice to you.
14. Third Party Links
This website may include links to third-party websites, plug-ins, applications and advertisements. Clicking on those links or enabling those connections may allow third parties to collect or share data about you. We do not control these third-party websites and are not responsible for their privacy statements or content. When you leave our website, we encourage you to read the privacy notice of every website you visit.
15. Updates
We regularly review and may update our privacy policy from time to time. The updated provisions will apply from the date they are posted on our website, so we recommend that you re-visit this privacy policy when you use our online services.
16. Accessing and correcting your personal information – Your legal rights
Under data protection laws you have rights in relation to your personal data that include the right to request access, correction, erasure, restriction, transfer, to object to processing, to portability of data and (where the lawful ground of processing is consent) to withdraw consent (note: some of these rights only attach to individuals located within the EU).
You can see more about these rights at: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/individual-rights/
If you wish to exercise any of the rights set out above, please contact us by issuing a ticket at support [email protected]
You will not have to pay a fee to access your personal data (or to exercise any of the other rights). However, we may charge a reasonable fee if your request is clearly unfounded, repetitive or excessive or refuse to comply with your request in these circumstances.
We may need to request specific information from you to help us confirm your identity and ensure your right to access your personal data (or to exercise any of your other rights). This is a security measure to ensure that personal data is not disclosed to any person who has no right to receive it. We may also contact you to ask you for further information in relation to your request to speed up our response. For record keeping purposes, we will record and store all information exchanged during an exercise of your rights under this clause. These records will be stored securely and separate from our main active business systems.
We try to respond to all legitimate requests within one month. Occasionally it may take us longer than a month if your request is particularly complex or you have made a number of requests. In this case, we will notify you.
If you request to have your information erased (also known as the right to be forgotten), we will, if appropriate, delete your personal information from our active business operating system. Your personal information will however continue to be stored within our backup(s) as we are unable to delete specific items from our backup. It will be deleted at the next scheduled backup deletion. We will keep a log of your request to be forgotten so that, should our backup be used to restore our operating system while your personal information is still stored, your personal information will again be removed from our active system upon restoration.
If you are not happy with any aspect of how we collect and use your data, you have the right to complain to the Information Commissioner’s Office in your country. For instance, in the UK contact the Information Commissioner Office at www.ico.org.uk. We would be grateful if you would contact us first if you do have a complaint so that we can try to resolve it for you.
Lawrence and Arjan,
Fantastic interview! I’ll be re-listening to this one. I’m going to respond to this and mainly Lawrence’s recently Patreon recording stating that “all roads lead to Rome” and most training variables don’t matter over the long-term in a training career:
I’ll start by saying I agree with the hypothesis that most factors in training (frequency, volume, rest intervals, sets, reps, exercises, periodization, machines vs. free weights, etc.) probably don’t matter if your goal is to reach 90-95% of your genetic potential and you don’t care whether that takes 3 years, 5 years or 10 years.
Having said that, I think the way you’re presenting your hypothesis makes it almost impossible to disprove. Any study showing superior muscle growth (even if it was substantial) from one factor or another can just be dismissed with “but wouldn’t the other (inferior) group just eventually catch up to the muscle gained of the superior group”? How can anyone refute what you’re saying without a long-term (10+ year) controlled study where you controlled for every single factor (diet, sleep, recovery, rest, all the training factors mentioned above) and just changing one? You can’t and you never will.
Therefore, why not strive to make some of these changes as long as the trade-off for your outside life isn’t massive? Why not try 3 workouts a week instead of 2 if they’re only 30 minutes? Why not try to use different rep schemes, superior machines, etc.? What’s the downside as long as it?
The nihilistic attitude of “well I think it probably doesn’t matter long-term” isn’t serving you, except to temper your expectations (which I think is a great reason for it alone, by the way). It’s like saying I’m not sure which diet is really best long-term, so I should just eat whatever crap I want.
Once again, I think you’re probably right Lawrence. Everyone plateaus and all roads probably do lead to Rome. I just wanted to present a counter-argument because I think you’re putting yourself in a trap that can’t be argued against.
Arjan also raises a super interesting point that I hadn’t heard before – the problem with “peaking too early” and how that may demotivate someone from training over a lifetime.
Well put Scott. I really appreciate the response. I’ll also post this on blog. Scientifically, it’s probably impossible to disprove it haha. How convenient! I agree, absolutely experiment but temper expectations. I think I did say something to that effect.
In hindsight, I think Nihilism is WAY too strong a word to describe this all roads lead to Rome (ARLTR) attitude. To say that everything (all variables) are meaningless is not true IMO. They all have different meanings to the individual, and in the context of optimising gains they might not make much difference but that doesn’t mean they don’t have wider utility. And thus your diet metaphor further reinforces why Nihilism is the wrong word in this context. It also has a negative connotation, and one could find ARLTR incredibly positive and satisfying.
I suppose I am setting up a trap, and does that mean that no one will ever be able to prove me wrong in a long term context scientifically? Perhaps, and if it really matters to people to experiment, then all the power to you. I’m not a total bore, I also experiment, but the experimentation ends when the variables interfere with overall quality of life. But to your point, the minor changes you suggested probably won’t do that, so it’s a bit of a lazy attitude and lazy thinking from me to be honest.
You’re right Lawrence – nihilism definitely isn’t the right word. What ARLTR displays is only a portion of what nihilism connotes.
Thanks for having such a great attitude about this! Again – I agree with you, just wanted to present a counterpoint.
Scott,
Sure, each one can follow studies and hope for the best. Get from it what one needs and act on it. However I dare to say there is nothing new under the sun. And can the new method be sustained after a certain period. Ok, you say the impact of a little bit more workout per week isn’t that big , I tend to disagree. It is ofcourse dependent on the person in question, how is their life regulated!!
To get to that last percentage of “potential’ will take a lot more of work AND outside the gym dedication. Each one must decide the worth of this,
Accepting at some point in life that more gains probably won’t show up isn’t nihillistic and it certainly doesn’t mean that the workouts aren’t performed with the motivation and intensity (also mentall) to stimulate the maximal possible growth, regardless the real outcome. And might here and there some gains show up, it realistic also could be a fact that these gains get lost again due to “life’ showing up. Later maybe again some gains again etc. So, at the point of almost maximal growth within ones potential there can be a continiously back and forth in this context.
This reaching of potential can maybe come fast or not, many influencing factors and I personally don’t have a problem that gains stop despite hard concequent training. It motivates me that I’m able to keep my mass, keep my BF% reasonable, feel strong and can live my life. No demotivation here. If so, then I must reflect on my real values……….for me or to impress.
Isn’t something like the Arnold press (with less pronation) recommended by Bill DeSimone? I had a flick through my congruent exercise book but could see it.
Another enjoyable conversation to eavesdrop on! My $0.02:
With my overhead presses, my cue is to keep my elbows forward, in front of me. Flaring my elbows and upper arms out wide, having the dumbbells back by my ears (or doing a behind the neck barbell press) really tears up my shoulders. I love the standing press, but it can apply too much stress to the low back, if doing a lot of volume. You’ve got to be vigilant about excessive layback.
I’ve never been a big fan of squats to failure. If I keep the weight light enough to be safe for my low back, I can get a good burn in the thighs by going for a fairly long TUL, but I don’t think that works my posterior (hips and hamstrings) as well as a barbell squat with more weight. For training to failure, I prefer a leg press or hip belt squat. Different strokes for different folks…
I normally train twice a week. If I have a week layoff, it will usually be a mixed bag: I will feel fresher and perhaps stronger in some exercises, and a bit off and weaker in others. No real pattern than I can see. If I miss more than a week, I will be weaker, and will have a lot more soreness (DOMS) when I do return to training. These time frames are short enough that I don’t think I can make any meaningful judgement about muscle mass or hypertrophy.
Good comments regarding realistic expectations. Work against meaningful resistance with a high degree of effort, with a modest amount of volume, and you will get what your body allows. After a year or so, you will have a pretty good idea of what your genetics will allow. No point in beating yourself up trying to get far beyond that point, unless you just happen to enjoy that kind of thing, or if you want the extra volume just for achieving your minimum required dose of physical activity. On the other hand, you probably should keep trying to get stronger, even if it is unlikely to happen, because that insures that you will continue to work with a high degree of effort. And variety can help keep things interesting.
A priori, I would not have predicted that people who run HIT studios would be interested in paying for a curated site to discuss of their business. But in hindsight, I can see the value of having a troll-free community of like minded people with whom to share ideas.
Also wanted to mention re: the shoulder press. Some seem to think it is actually a fairly poor exercise for building your shoulders in terms of hypertrophy. Perhaps Lawrence and Arjan you would be better off with lateral raises and face pulls, which target the delts more directly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wj6Fb9EyfY
I agree . I haven’t done any type over overhead pressing for years and i get great shoulder workouts simply utilizing laterals for the shoulders . High intensity style utilizing negative emphasis static holds & the like that light up the delts like fire without putting them at risk .
Hey Arjan, very interesting interview. Thank you for sharing your experience! I have two questions if you have the time to answer:
1. Since you are a fan of Mike Mentzer, what is your opinion of Mike Mentzer’s dietary advice and practices? Are you using them or have you used them?
2. I saw on your YouTube channel a video where you compare slow cadence set with 3 traditional ones. Have you experimented with slow cadence, but short TULs e.g. up to 40 seconds (2-3 reps), instead of 80 seconds for example?
Thanks
I’m just getting ready to listen to this one . I actually watch many of this gentlemen’s videos on his YT channel & comment on them as well and i agree with much of what he has to say on training . Anyone who hasn’t checked out this man’s content on his YT channel i suggest you do .
Excellent interview ! Arjan is a very wise man indeed .
It’s not the genetics. It’s the drugs. So Skyler Tanner was right about biology: you influence it with steroids. Genetically humans are not hugely different; we are the same species. The genetic difference between individual humans today is minuscule – about 0.1%, on average (see Smithsonian, “What does it mean to be human?”). Also our “hunter gatherer” ancestors rarely lived beyond 30 and were “lean” because food was a rare commodity (paleo advocates will try to refute this life expectancy, but science looks at the evidence, and that’s what we see). And archaeological evidence suggests that most hominid species and archaic Homo sapiens were primarily vegetarian, not meat eaters. They ate meat rarely.