110 – Dr Shawn Baker on the Carnivore Diet, Confirmation Bias, and The Joe Rogan Experience

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1. James Atkinson says

   January 4, 2018 at 9:55 pm

   So i have been passionate about fitness and human performance since i was 14. Reading everything i could come across, and definitely had followed low carb diets in the past. And one of my prized possessions is a book by Vilhjalmur Stefansson called Fat Of The Land, where i came across the idea of a all meat diet. After that i actually came across several of the zero carb groups years ago including some people that followed a Raw Meat diet. But the majority of the people in those groups had various disorders where they tend to be very sensitive to greens, grains etc. And while i thought that was a interesting alternative for people with digestion and food sensitivities, it’s been really interesting coming across Dr Baker, because here’s a person who’s transition has gone from Paleo, to Keto etc And going Carnivorous without those problems, but it has provided better and better performance levels.

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2. mike williams says

   January 5, 2018 at 4:44 am

   Great interview Lawrence..the main reason I see so many overweight vegans and vegetarians is they are users of grain..and none seem to give a rats arse about the side effect of it..

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   • Lee says

     May 6, 2024 at 7:25 pm

     That’s not true, it’s called processed food. Misconception,
     Vegans can’t be fat, I was a “fat” (fat meaning in the higher end of the “normal” zone for my body) vegan (yes for the animals) and am now a whole food plant based athlete. I fell in love with how that made me feel and was wowed by the endurance I had in the boxing ring. So I went back to school for nutrition. This is my passion. The carnivore diet is essentially a keto diet, 70-80% of daily caloric intake from fat. Ever see the arteries of a practicing keto fan? The elimination of carbs, “benefits” are cutting out processed food that anyone on any diet would eat, ie Oreos, bread, etc. it’s not grains which we humans have actually been consuming for thousands of years. Ever see the grain temples from ancient Egypt? Your comment is so void of any fact and a heaping of misunderstanding. I will tell you, the term “meathead” has been around a few hundred years and it means and reflects the same thing now as it did then.

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3. Andrew May says

   January 6, 2018 at 12:04 am

   I’m coming to respect Shawn more even if I don’t agree with a lot of what he says.

   I laughed so much the other day when my wife was reading out her colleague’s new year’s resolutions off of social media “plant based diet” was one to which she replied “fuck that, I’m making a point of eating more meat and less of everything else” maybe it’s passing via me subliminally!

   Can I ask, Lawrence, what is Ash’s reason for being vegetarian?

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4. enlite says

   January 18, 2018 at 1:00 pm

   I find it extremely odd that many people that advocate sensible training practices based on logic and reason can then turn around and reject all manner of logic and reason when it comes to nutrition . Glycogen is the fundamental / primary fuel source that powers all the cells in the human body , in other words no glycogen no life . If the body is not provided with enough carbs it will convert protein into glycogen . John Little mentioned that an individual that he was training was following a very low carb diet and had lost 20 pounds which he was very happy about , but when they placed him in the bod pod the result was that he’d lost 20 pounds of muscle ! Not a good thing especially when we work so hard to build muscle tissue in the first place . In terms of health it’s very clear that meat / dairy has been a very significant cause of ill health amongst many people and this has been known for quite some time . Lets face it we live in a culture where the consumption of meat plays a very significant role for many reasons ( holidays and gatherings for example ). I myself do consume meat and eggs but i don’t try to fool myself that these things are healthy which is the reason why i have reduced my consumption of them .

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5. Greg P. says

   January 19, 2018 at 8:17 pm

   Interesting and entertaining interview. On the subject of nutrition, I heard him say several times “we just don’t know”, in response to some claim or controversy. This usually seemed to be a good response. But then he would often follow this up by saying that he relied his own N=1 experience to figure out the answer to the question or issue. I must say that I am fairly skeptical of the idea of generalizing N=1 experience to everybody.

   I am also skeptical about evolutionary claims for humans as carnivores based on ice age European diets. That was a relatively short period of time on the evolutionary scale; by most estimates, modern humans first migrated out of Africa no more that 130,000 years ago. In contrast, most believe that we descended from Homo Erectus, a species that lasted about 1,600,000 years. I’d guess that our digestive systems were influenced more by Homo Erectus diets than ice age European diets. Homo Erectus ate meat, but perhaps mostly from scavenging., and probably wasn’t the prolific hunter that Homo Sapiens turned into.

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6. Richard Chartrand says

   January 23, 2018 at 7:16 pm

   Curious and apologize if this has already been answered. Why only red meat? Why not fish, chicken, eggs etc etc

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