
Lawrence Neal
What’s it like to leave a high-paying job in one of the greatest cities in the world so you can create a hyper-focused podcast serving High-Intensity Training business owners?
That’s exactly what Lawrence Neal, founder of the High Intensity Business podcast (formerly called Corporate Warrior) did, and it wasn’t always smooth sailing.
Dave Bess turns the tables on Lawrence and gets him to talk about what it took to get HIB to where it is now: a household name in the HIT industry, one that serves the fitness business owner from start to finish.
If you want to know more about the person behind over 500 episodes throughout more than a decade of interviewing HIT experts, don’t miss this great conversation between Dave and Lawrence!
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Show Notes
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00:00 – Episode Preview
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04:32 – Dave sets the scene: getting into HIT and discovering the HIB podcast
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06:30 – Who was Lawrence Neal before HIT and HIB?
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10:39 – When and why Lawrence started a podcast (and how it led him to HIT)
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13:36 – On leaving a high-paying job to pursue entrepreneurship
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17:27 – The early momentum and success of the Corporate Warrior podcast and the challenges Lawrence faced
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19:36 – On pushing through personal and business struggles
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23:43 – When Corporate Warrior became High Intensity Business
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27:28 – When you haven’t figured things out yet, don’t stop trying to figure it out
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29:07 – On finding the right focus for HIB (and learning to say “no” more often)
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35:35 – Starting Optima Strength (and why Lawrence left)
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40:30 – The hardest decision an entrepreneur must make
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41:28 – Fear-setting: an immensely useful mental exercise
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44:28 – The effects of niching down (and how to think about it)
People Mentioned & Selected Links from the Episode
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- Dave Bess | On Instagram | Underground Fitness | PT Legends | Greenlight Personal Training | The Greenlight Movement on Instagram | HIB Episodes
- Tim Ferriss | Official Website | The 4-Hour Body | Fear-Setting blog post
- Dr. Doug McGuff | Official Website | Ultimate Exercise Studio | Body by Science (book) | The Body by Science Q&A Book | HIB Episodes
- Fred Hahn | Slow Burn Personal Training | The Slow Burn Fitness Revolution (book) | HIB Episodes
- Dr. James Fisher | Dr. Fisher on Research Gate | HIB Episodes
- Cal Newport | Official Website | Deep Work (book) | Slow Productivity (book) | Deep Questions (podcast)
- Mark Sisson | Mark on X (formerly Twitter) | Primal Kitchen | HIB Episode
- Ben Greenfield | Official Website | HIB Episode
- Luke Carlson | Official Website | Luke on Instagram | Discover Strength | Discover Strength Franchise | HIB Episodes
- Resistance Exercise Conference (REC)
- James Schramko
- Optima Strength | On Instagram | On Facebook
- Alex Hormozi | Official Website | YouTube | $100M Leads (book) | $100M Offers (book) | Gym Launch Secrets (book)
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