If you are visiting this page, you may have been directed here from one of our other sites. We have a firm and continuing commitment to the privacy of personal information provided by those visiting and interacting with any website controlled by High Intensity Business and have created this policy to apply across our various websites and apps.
We hold the privacy of your personal information in the highest regard and this privacy notice provides you with details of how we collect and process your personal data through your use of our sites to enable you to make informed decisions about your personal information.
By providing us with your data, you warrant to us that you are over 13 years of age
When we talk about ‘us’ ‘we’ or ‘our’, we mean High Intensity Business or Corporate Warrior Ltd, 11 Ingleby Road, Ilford, Essex, UK, IG1 4RX and we are the operator of the website from which you accessed this privacy policy and any other websites or apps controlled by High Intensity Business (collectively ‘website’). We are the data controller and we are responsible for your personal data.
When we talk about ‘you’, we mean you as a participant or user of this website or services of this website.
‘Personal information’ is information that directly identifies you, such as your name and email address, or data that could be used, on its own or in combination with other data, to identify you.
It is very important that the information we hold about you is accurate and up to date. Please let us know if at any time your personal information changes by issuing a ticket at support [email protected]
1. Staying Anonymous
You can browse our online services anonymously. However, if you request information, sign up for our communications or podcast or purchase any of our products or services, you will need to identify yourself and at that point we will collect your personal information. If you do not give personal information to us, it will affect our ability to provide you with requested information or to deliver our products or services.
2. Collecting personal information
At all times we aim to only collect the minimum information we need for the services we are providing and to only use the information for the purpose it has been provided. For example, if you sign up to our newsletter, we will collect and use your email address to send our newsletter. As you would expect, the more involved you are with us, the more information about you we will collect.
There are some unusual terms in new legislation that affect how we tell you about the way we manage your personal information. One is letting you know the ‘lawful ground’ for what we do. This just means we are letting you know that there is a provision in the legislation that says it is alright for us to collect or use your information for a purpose that is considered a ‘legitimate interest’ of our business.
The main way we collect information about you is when you give it to us and this can happen in a variety of ways. We may process the following categories of personal information about you:
- Communication data: which includes any communication that you send to us. This might be when you join our mailing list or when you contact us through the contact form on our website, through email, text, social media messaging, social media posting or any other communication that you send us. Communication data may also include geographical data if you enable this within our app so that we can send you communications relevant to your geographical location. We process this data for the purposes of communicating with you, for record keeping and for the establishment, pursuance or defence of legal claims. Our lawful ground for this processing is our legitimate interest in replying to communications sent to us, keeping appropriate records and to establish, pursue or defend legal claims.
- Customer Data: which includes data you give to us when you purchase goods and/or services from us including any of our business training programs or events. This will include basic information about you and the information we require for billing purposes such as your name, title, billing address, delivery address email address, phone number, contact details, purchase details and your card details (last digits only). We use third party services for processing payments such as PayPal, EWay and Stripe and we do not receive or store your full card payment information. We process this data to supply the goods and/or services you have expressed an interest in or purchased and to keep records of such transactions. Our lawful ground for this processing is the performance of a contract between you and us and/or taking steps at your request to enter into that contract and our legitimate business interest of keeping records for accounting purposes.
- User Data: which includes data about how you use our website and any online services together with any data that you post for publication on our website or through other online services. We process this data to operate our website and ensure relevant content is provided to you, to ensure the security of our website, to maintain back-ups of our website and/or databases and to enable publication and administration of our website, other online services and business. Our lawful ground for this processing is our legitimate interest in properly administering our website and our business.
- Technical Data: which includes data about your use of our website and online services such as your IP address, your login data, details about your browser, length of visit to pages on our website, page views and navigation paths, details about the number of times you use our website, time zone settings and other technology on the devices you use to access our website. The source of this data is from our analytics tracking system. We process this data to analyse your use of our website and other online services, to administer and protect our business and website, to deliver relevant website content and advertisements to you and to understand the effectiveness of our advertising. Our lawful ground for this processing is our legitimate interest in properly administering our website and our business and to grow our business and to decide our marketing strategy.
- Marketing Data: which includes data about your preferences in receiving marketing from us and our third parties and your communication preferences. We process this data to enable you to partake in our online services, to deliver relevant website content and advertisements to you and measure or understand the effectiveness of this advertising. We may use surveys or contests to request information and you are not required to enter or use these services. Our lawful ground for this processing is our legitimate interest in studying how customers use our products/services, developing our products, growing our business and to decide our marketing strategy.
- We may use Customer Data, User Data, Technical Data and Marketing Data to deliver relevant website content and advertisements to you (including Facebook adverts, YouTube advertising or other display advertisements) and to measure or understand the effectiveness of the advertising we serve you. We may use pixels for retargeting to do this. Our lawful ground for this processing is legitimate interest in growing our business. We may also use such data to send other marketing communications to you. Our lawful ground for this processing is either consent or legitimate interests (namely to grow our business).
3. Collecting information from third parties
As discussed above, we collect personal information about you when you give it to us and when it is collected by our website however we may also collect personal information that is given to us or available to us by a third party (for example, information that is on a publicly maintained record or that you have made available on a public platform).
We may automatically collect certain data from you as you use our website by using cookies and similar technologies.
We may receive data from third parties such as analytics providers like Google, advertising networks such as Facebook, information providers such as Google, providers of technical, payment and delivery services, such as data brokers or aggregators. These third parties may be within the EU or outside of the EU.
This information forms part of the personal information described in this policy. We will not intentionally collect personal information that is unintentionally disclosed.
4. Collecting sensitive information
We do not intend to collect sensitive information about you and request you never disclose information about your health, racial or ethnic origin, political opinions, religious beliefs or sexual orientation on our website or any blog or social media account associated with our website or business. If you include your photograph in our online forum please be aware that other forum users may make assumptions about your racial or ethnic background.
5. Children’s privacy
Our services are not designed to be used by minors under the age of 13 and we do not intend to collect information about such minors. We will make reasonable endeavours to delete any details of users under the age of 13 years where a parent or guardian has notified us that any such details have been obtained. By providing us with your data, you warrant to us you are over the age of 13. If you are over 13 but under 18 you may be able to use our services however only with permission and guidance from your parents or guardian and we request that their personal information be used not yours.
6. Testimonials
If you provide us with a testimonial, you give us your consent for the use of your name, likeness and the date of service delivery to be displayed on our website or in our other marketing material, together with the content of the testimonial that you provide. We may edit your testimonial but will only do so where possible without changing the meaning of what you have said. We may store and/or use your testimonial for a period of up to 7 years from the date it is given. We process this information based on your consent which you may withdraw.
7. Marketing Communications
Our lawful ground of processing your personal data to send you marketing communications is either your consent or our legitimate interests (namely to grow our business). Sometimes we may recommend sharing your information with a third party for their marketing purposes. Before we share your personal data with any third party for their own marketing purposes we will get your express consent.
You can ask us or third parties to stop sending you marketing messages at any time by following the opt-out links on any marketing message sent to you or by emailing us.
If you opt out of receiving marketing communications, this opt-out does not apply to personal data provided for other transactions such as purchases.
8. Social Networking Services and links to other websites
You can connect with us via our social media pages on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Twitter and LinkedIn.
We may provide links to other websites or use social networking services to communicate with the public about our work. When you communicate with us using these services we may collect your personal information. The social networking service will also handle your personal information for its own purposes and have their own privacy policies. You should become familiar with the privacy policies of any service you use.
9. How we use Cookies and other identifiers
We use a range of tools provided by third parties including our website host, third party service providers and search engine browsers to collect or view access and traffic information for statistical, reporting and maintenance purposes. Third party providers have their own privacy policies. We also may also use tracking pixels, cookies and session tools to improve your experience when accessing our online services.
The data collected by cookies does not usually identify you but may be combined with other information to identify you. If we identify you using information from cookies, we may use that information to track how you use our online services and send you information more specific to your needs, or to invite you to purchase our services.
The kind of information that can be collected includes:
- device specific information such as mobile network information
- server logs including your IP address, the times you use our services and system activity
- location information including IP address, GPS, and Wi-Fi access points
- local storage availability
We use the information to help to track your use of our online services to improve your user experience and the quality of our services.
10. Use and disclosure of personal information
In summary, as a legitimate business interest, the personal information we collect about you is used:
- to verify your identity
- to enable you to use our services
- to process orders, registrations and enquiries
- to provide you with information about events, products and services that may interest you
- to provide you with personalised service or special opportunities
- to allow you to participate in interactive features of our online services
- to run competitions, prize draws, and promotions (if any)
- to facilitate our internal business operations
- to improve our products or services and in planning new products or services
- to conducting market research surveys
- to monitor compliance with our Terms and Conditions.
With your consent or at your request we may:
- share your contact information with third party organisations who offer products or services that may be of interest to you (if you agree to receive such information)
We never sell, lend or lease your identifiable personal information.
We may also disclose your information to:
- Other companies in our group who provide services to us.
- Third party suppliers we engage to provide services which involve processing data on our behalf, for example IT and system administration services. In this case, we will require them to use that information only for the purpose of providing the services we have requested, and in compliance with the provisions of this privacy policy.
- Payment third parties if there is a dispute over a payment. For example if PayPal contacts us regarding a dispute over a payment, we will provide PayPal with user activity information such as IP address and activity linked to the IP address, billing details on our system etc to allow the payment dispute to be resolved.
- Professional advisers including accountants, lawyers, bankers, auditors and insurers.
- Government bodies that require us to report processing activities.
- Third parties where we are required to in accordance with the law and reserve the right to fully co-operate with any law enforcement authorities or court order requiring or requesting us to disclose the identity or other usage details of any user of our online services, or in accordance with a properly executed court order, or as otherwise required to do so by law.
11. Security and overseas recipients
We are committed to ensuring that your information is secure to industry standards however no system can be 100% secure and, provided we have acted in accordance with this policy, we are not responsible for loss you may suffer should your personal information be unlawfully accessed. Using the Internet to collect and process personal data necessarily involves the transmission of data on an international basis.
Not all countries have the same level of privacy protection as the country within which you reside. You acknowledge and agree to our processing of personal data across international borders in this way. We will do our best to ensure your data is protected to a similar standard as set out in this policy by using third party providers with similar privacy protections.
We will also take reasonable steps to protect all personal information within our direct control from misuse, interference, loss, unauthorised access, unlawful or accidental destruction, modification or disclosure. To prevent unauthorised access or disclosure we use respected hosting services, firewall and other electronic security procedures and managerial procedures to safeguard and secure the information we collect from you.
We have procedures in place to deal with any suspected personal data breach and will notify you and any applicable regulator of a breach if we are legally required to.
12. Opt-out/ unsubscribe
If we provide you with the opportunity to receive information about products or services from other carefully selected organisations (our business partners) about the products or services they offer, and you elect to do so, you can change your preferences at any time using the unsubscribe function within their emails.
Similarly, our marketing emails/newsletters will also have an unsubscribe option if you would like to opt-out. You can also update your subscription settings if you are a subscriber.
If you continue to receive communications you have unsubscribed from, please contact us by issuing a ticket at support [email protected] and we will remedy the problem.
13. Data retention
We will only retain your personal data for as long as necessary to fulfil the purposes we collected it for, including for the purposes of satisfying any legal, accounting, or reporting requirements.
When deciding what the correct time is to keep the data for we look at its amount, nature and sensitivity, potential risk of harm from unauthorised use or disclosure, the processing purposes, if these can be achieved by other means and legal requirements.
For tax purposes the law requires us to keep basic information about our customers (including Contact, Identity, Financial and Transaction Data) for five years after they stop being customers.
In some circumstances we may anonymise your personal data for research or statistical purposes in which case we may use this information indefinitely without further notice to you.
14. Third Party Links
This website may include links to third-party websites, plug-ins, applications and advertisements. Clicking on those links or enabling those connections may allow third parties to collect or share data about you. We do not control these third-party websites and are not responsible for their privacy statements or content. When you leave our website, we encourage you to read the privacy notice of every website you visit.
15. Updates
We regularly review and may update our privacy policy from time to time. The updated provisions will apply from the date they are posted on our website, so we recommend that you re-visit this privacy policy when you use our online services.
16. Accessing and correcting your personal information – Your legal rights
Under data protection laws you have rights in relation to your personal data that include the right to request access, correction, erasure, restriction, transfer, to object to processing, to portability of data and (where the lawful ground of processing is consent) to withdraw consent (note: some of these rights only attach to individuals located within the EU).
You can see more about these rights at: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/individual-rights/
If you wish to exercise any of the rights set out above, please contact us by issuing a ticket at support [email protected]
You will not have to pay a fee to access your personal data (or to exercise any of the other rights). However, we may charge a reasonable fee if your request is clearly unfounded, repetitive or excessive or refuse to comply with your request in these circumstances.
We may need to request specific information from you to help us confirm your identity and ensure your right to access your personal data (or to exercise any of your other rights). This is a security measure to ensure that personal data is not disclosed to any person who has no right to receive it. We may also contact you to ask you for further information in relation to your request to speed up our response. For record keeping purposes, we will record and store all information exchanged during an exercise of your rights under this clause. These records will be stored securely and separate from our main active business systems.
We try to respond to all legitimate requests within one month. Occasionally it may take us longer than a month if your request is particularly complex or you have made a number of requests. In this case, we will notify you.
If you request to have your information erased (also known as the right to be forgotten), we will, if appropriate, delete your personal information from our active business operating system. Your personal information will however continue to be stored within our backup(s) as we are unable to delete specific items from our backup. It will be deleted at the next scheduled backup deletion. We will keep a log of your request to be forgotten so that, should our backup be used to restore our operating system while your personal information is still stored, your personal information will again be removed from our active system upon restoration.
If you are not happy with any aspect of how we collect and use your data, you have the right to complain to the Information Commissioner’s Office in your country. For instance, in the UK contact the Information Commissioner Office at www.ico.org.uk. We would be grateful if you would contact us first if you do have a complaint so that we can try to resolve it for you.
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Hi Lawrence & Brad – great interview guys, so much content here, I will have to listen again to fully unpick it all.. A few first impressions though: on the one hand I am actually quite happy to take 70-80% of the gains with my current HIT programme. I find it very straightforward and enjoyable and it really fits in well with my schedule (I am currently doing bodyweight only, full-body routine, 3 x mornings per week for 40 minutes/ workout before my family wake up at 7am. 1 or 2 sets of around 8 or 9 different exercises – always to momentary muscular failure and a steady, controlled tempo which I am guessing is around 3/3 seconds). I could see myself maintaining this routine over the long-term as it fits so well into my schedule, I really enjoy it and I cannot see this style of training ever laying me out with injuries. I am also very happy that it doesn’t take up more than this amount of time, since like most of your listeners I am not a professional fitness coach or bodybuilder – we have other things which take priority in our lives, so doing something that integrates so easily into my busy lifestyle, is sustainable over the long-term and yet still provides 70-80% of the gains that dedicated/ professional ‘high-volume’ bodybuilders would get is an absolutely amazing result in my opinion! ie the cost/ benefit trade-off seems to be optimised by HIT: even if Brad is right and the outright results themselves aren’t. The extra time/ effort/ long-term wear & tear required to get that extra 20-30% is surely not worth it for anyone whose life is not dedicated to fitness/ bodybuilding/ competing?
On the other hand though – Brad has given me a few pointers on how to mix things up a bit more to move up higher to the top end of this 70-80% of results. For example, I can see where he is coming from in terms of periodisation/ undulation – it has struck me that my approach above may be a little too rigid/ constant to see continual improvements – despite me going to failure each time (thought anyone?) So I will aim to have one of my 3 mornings, say on a Wednesday, experimenting with higher speed cadences (eg 1/1) – but still controlled and trying to not rely on momentum – just to mix things up a bit.. And the other thing that struck me and I am actually a bit confused about now (must listen to this again) is that coming into this podcast I though that Brad and Stu Philips were both aligned and convinced now that low loads were every bit as good as high loads as long as we take each set to failure or near-failure. That is what led me to start home bodyweight training 6 months ago as it would seem to be optimal if the load is not important, since risk of injury and joint/ tendon strain/ long term wear & tear is minimised by lighter loads.. Yet, although Brad indeed started out by saying he had recently come to that same conclusion, halfway through the episode he seems to be saying that load needs to reach some minimum threshold in order to produce results. I am assuming this implies that pure bodyweight exercises would fall below this load threshold? But what is the the threshold exactly? All very confusing to be honest.. So, my take-out here is I may resort to switching one of my workouts (maybe Friday) back to 2 sets of 8 different home dumbbells exercises for each muscle group – again to vary things up a bit more. I do like this style of exercising (a la Martin Berkhan’s ‘Reverse Pyramid Training’) and have been missing my dumbbells (especially the pump I get on the second slightly lighter set!) but it will interfere a bit with my schedule as I don’t feel right handling heavy weights at 6.15am when I am not fully awake – so will have to get this session in on a Friday lunchtime instead – not quite so convenient. Also, I have injured myself (not in a major way) doing the dumbbells in the past (even on a slow, controlled cadence), so am a bit wary about opening myself up to the higher chance of injuries again (I am 47 years old by the way..) Still if it’s only once per week with heavy dumbbells, and the other 2 x sessions are bodyweight then I guess the risk is minimised a bit – at least for wear & tear..
All in all a very interesting listen, and really left me in 2 minds.. On the one hand Brad is saying that HIT will provide 70-80% of the gains, but then he says he is using it currently but basically only maintaining his previous gains. And where does that leave me with my bodyweight exercises to failure? Am I still getting my 70-80% of my potential maximum gains (which I would be very happy to take) or is it more like 50% – or lower (in which case I would not be happy with that)? I’ll give it another listen tomorrow – but I would be interested to hear if anyone else is going to try anything different after hearing about Brad’s latest work?
Just to clarify – For my Friday heavy dumbbell session I meant switching to 2 x sets each of 8-10 different exercises in TOTAL (full-body routine, 6-10 reps per set) – not per muscle group! ie still sticking to a 40-45 minute workout time. I haven’t suddenly started trying to emulate Arnold with a mammoth 4 hour workout!
Thank you Rob for your thoughtful comment. You raise some excellent questions. I’ve asked Brad to reply if he has time, but he’s got a lot on his plate so we’ll see.
Quick update – I have been experimenting with Brad’s 1/1 tempo on my Wednesday and Friday morning workouts, and I am extremely impressed! I can still keep everything under control and prevent the weights flying up/ down under momentum, but as you get halfway through the set, even though you push for 1/1 it just naturally slows down. That said though, I felt it enabled me to push harder than I usually would: more reps, and more sets in the same 45 minute workout period. I know more sets is not always considered superior, but doing it this way, it gives your muscles (and endorphins maybe?) such a pump that you just want to crank out more sets and rest less in between.. When my young daughter saw me doing the chin-ups this morning she was really surprised: “I thought you could only do a few of those really slowly” was her comment!! I would highly recommend anyone who considers themselves open-minded in this area to at least give it a try for a week to see how you respond to it – what have you got to lose?
I will probably try to mix it up a bit as per Brad’s thoughts: so maybe first set slowly (3/3) then second set faster (1/1) or maybe just have ‘fast’ days on Mondays and Fridays with a ‘slow’ day thrown in on Wednesday. All in all very impressed – thanks Brad!
Thanks for the comments Rob. As mentioned in the podcast, a workout needs to fit your lifestyle. This involves taking into account your goals and the time/effort required to reach those goals. You obviously have a good handle on this and thus a lower volume approach would seem to be most appropriate. I would, however, take issue with the comment about “long-term wear and tear” from higher volume approaches. I have seen no evidence that increasing volume in this regard would substantially increase this risk provided proper structuring of the program (i.e. taking appropriate deloads, etc) and paying attention to proper form.
Long term wear and tear / cumulative damage on the body is something that is a very serious consideration when it comes to exercise . Instead of taking appropriate deloads which is based on periodization which was simply developed for athletes ( pro and amateur ) to down cycle their training in accordance with their PED protocols , why not simply allow more time for recovery ? More exercise is going to result in more stresses being accumulated by the musculoskeletal system over time , even if proper attention is being payed to proper form and the like . The use of certain exercises which pose orthopedic risks to the body is also something that needs to be considered , and such exercises should be avoided in favor of safer alternatives .
Great interview! I appreciate your questions and Brad’s approach, particularly how he strives to precisely answer the specific questions that you are asking.
Here’s my two disconnects, and maybe I am missing something:
1. Many of the people who try HIT and do well with it have tried a higher volume approach and greatly struggled to see any improvements. I’ve certainly been among them – it was when I cut volume that I started to see increases. Am I missing something about Brad’s approach? Were there refinements to my training technique that I could have made in high school and college (when, hormonally, it was supposed to be easy to make gains) that would have helped me? HIT has been the only exercise program I’ve tried that has delivered on its promises. Not to be adversarial about Brad’s points, I just wonder.
2. Personally, if I were going to spend that much extra time training, I would continue to do HIT and then spend the extra time on activities that I enjoy. Seems like the increase that Brad says you’ll gain from following his approach isn’t worth the significant increase in time you have to spend.
With that said, very informative interview and I’m glad to listen to someone with a perspective outside of HIT.
Thank you Matt. I’ve asked Brad to comment if he finds the time. Brad would need to respond to #1. I think both Brad and I would agree on #2, but Brad is dealing with those that are willing to invest more time if it means optimal gains. Pleased you enjoyed the alternative perspective. I don’t want my show to become dogmatic about HIT.
Thanks, Lawrence. You’re definitely NOT dogmatic about HIT. It’s great stuff, but the best way to understand why we’re choosing one approach is to understand the alternatives and make a decision that works best with our individual needs, goals, and circumstances. Your podcast continually helps me to ask the right questions and make those decisions.
We definitely shouldn’t be dogmatic about anything except one thing , the truth . The reason that i advocate and use hit training is because it’s logically sound and sensible along with efficient ( getting the most out of doing the least ) and i’m sure that’s the reason you use it as well .
Hi Matt:
To answer your first question, it’s impossible for me to comment on your individual situation. I guess it is possible that you were grossly overtrained from a high volume approach; individuals have different recovery abilities, so there are a wide spectrum of responses. But when making recommendations on the topic, we must defer to research that strictly controls the variables to be able to draw true cause/effect. Of all the studies on the topic to date, only one showed a very slight benefit fro a lower versus higher volume routine, and that study was carried out in untrained elderly women. All the other studies (14 in all) have shown a beneficial effect of higher volumes, with the spectrum of results ranging from a slight effect to a substantial effect. Now studies report the means so certainly some will respond more and others less to volume; that’s why recommendations are only guidelines that must be customized to the individual. But on a general level, there would be no evidence whatsoever that a HIT routine is superior to higher volumes and lots of evidence that it is suboptimal.
As far as your personal feelings, that is perfectly understandable. I specifically noted that every decision needs to take cost/benefit into account. If the additional gains aren’t worth the added time, then by all means you should opt for the lower volume approach. But to others those gains are meaningful and the added time/effort is worth it.
Thanks so much, Brad, for your thoughtful response! In retrospect, I was following cookie cutter programs in high school and college and not exercising proper critical thinking skills to evaluate the question. I see the point – “high volume” and “low volume” are general terms, and what is high versus low volume needs to take into account all variable involved for the individual. Prior to kids, I may have been interested in trying that approach. Right now, with kids, work, and another project I’m undertaking, there’s not a lot of spare time. None the less, I’ll keep it in mind.
Thank you again!
Hey Lawrence, Greetings from London! Going to Matt’s place tomorrow. I listened to this podcast in the plain. Can’t help it and need to say… 3-4% of hypertrophy increase? Seriously?! Ha ha ha… I got absolutely nothing out of this one honestly. What a “Mary goes round” of an opinions shared. Bodybuilders do this and that and in the end I don’ t do it because… When will people finally say it out loud that competitive Bodybuilding equals serious steroides and many many other chemicals usage since 1960 s?! Even in the the lowest ranks of competition they overabuse numerous substances… So what they do or do not is worthed nothing to the ordinary trainee. Do more volume, but keep the recovery in check… Man, that has been the whole Idea… Do not push things in the first place, so you will always be recovered. How can you match loqd and volume?! Lawrence, why didn’t you bring up Drew Baye ‘s analysis of that study, that I sent you? There things are more that clear…
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Hey Kamen. I agree with much of what you say and thanks for the contribution. I forgot about Drew’s analysis and would have been good to discuss though Brad may have needed to review it in advance. Like you said, I want to welcome all perspectives to give people the opportunity to form their own conclusions. The last thing I want is this podcast to just interview HIT experts and form a dogma. Enjoy London and let me know how you get on with the ARX. I think I still have soreness …. 😉
Hi Lawrence, been there tried It! Yeah, ARX is truly a fearsome weapon! Nothing I’ve ever experienced matches it. It really makes sets and reps look like nonsense or at least as very inaccurate measurements. This is a new level of exercise from the future…Man vs. the Machine 😀 Otherwise Matt is awesome and the whole visit yesterday was of great value for me. Thanks again for all the information and help in order this experience to become reality for me! Wish you a great day and I’ll stay tuned 🙂
Hey Kamen. Glad you enjoyed the experience. Matt is great and he has a nice little thing going on there. You’re most welcome sir. Keep me posted on what you decide to do re ARX.
Hi, I guess that the discussion here, about this topic is no longer as active, but just in case, if someone is interested on Drew Baye’s view on some of it’s major points, you can check his newest post here: http://baye.com/muscle-atrophy/
On my behalf, I just couldn’t agree more!
I’m a bit miffed by your comments. You scoff at 3-4% increases in hypertrophy? Do you realize that in our meta-analysis, the stratified lowest volume group only achieved an average of ~5% growth! If you don’t think that increasing that amount by almost double, then you basically are saying the gains made from a low volume approach are irrelevant. And as far as bodybuilding, there is something called natural bodybuilding competitions that prohibit use of steroids, so I’m not clear on your point? My job as an educator is to provide people with an evidence-based opinion on the topic. I specifically detailed the nuances, and noted that whether the time/effort trade-off is worth the extra gains will be completely up to the individual. For my own personal situation at this point, that tradeoff is not feasible; I’m content with maintenance for now. If that doesn’t make sense to you then I’m not sure what else to say. You seem to be clinging to a closely-held belief and letting confirmation bias rule rather than being open to changing opinion based on evidence; that’s a decidedly unscientific approach. And as far as Drew Baye, he’s someone I respect from every interaction that I’ve had with him, and has shown to be open-minded and appreciative of the nuances of exercise science. I’m not familiar with the particular study you mention, but I’d be happy to address if you post the critique.
Great that you took the time to come back and respond to our comments Brad – total respect! Talking of respect, I hear that Drew has a lot of time for you too – Lawrence any chance of setting up these 2 heavyweights for what would be one hell of a round table?!!
Hey Brad, I really did not want to sound as if I am commenting on your meta analysis and the results you got! At least I am not questioning your scientific part and contribution overall.
What I really meant to say is that I got nothing out of the information shared! Basically, the overall impression and the message for me sounded like: If you do more, you will get more results, BUT only if you can properly recover and it’s nice to avoid some risks!?! Well that tells Me nothing new. But may be it does to others!
Then at times non scientific arguments slipped through. The reason I mention bodybuilding is because hypertrophy matters there most. I am well aware what a natural bodybuilding is and simply because I am one such builder and have been one for a long time time. And since we discuss the advantages of training methodology…I see not 5%, but a 30% difference in hypertrophy between naturals and typical…but hey, the difference is not due to the methodology used, but in substances… Pardon me, but that is my met analysis for this one. Again we talk hypertrophy and that’s why I mention bodybuilding.
The matching of time and load and how is it possible. Well, I’m sure you were not prepared for such a question and it was not easy to answer it right on. That’s Ok. You can check this out as a good example:
http://baye.com/ss-vs-traditional-reps/
And in the end I really disagree and am close minded and dogmatic when I hear that speed of movement was not “a proven” cause of injuries. Or that things can be nicely controlled at say 1/1 1/2 cadences…
But in the end, that is also fine, because as I,You and others here repeatedly have stated, every opinion and information is welcomed here on this blog and we like it this way! Everyone should get things with his own wits.
Cheers!
I couldn’t agree with you more with regards to Mr schoenfeld . With all due respect to Brad it just sounds like more of the same . I know that Brad says he bases his training recommendations on scientific evidence and that may in fact be the problem . An interesting article i read that was a critique on scientific research said that there is scientific evidence ( peer reviewed by the way ) that will support any conclusion you want . Knowing this i don’t see how one can base his / her conclusions on scientific evidence . Instead we should be basing our conclusions about training or anything else for that matter on logic / reason and what is sensible and practical .
In Brad’s defence, he’s explained how important it is to consider the weight of evidence and he does seem to take a bigger picture view. Clearly 1 study isn’t always enough to prove anything.
That’s fair enough but it seems to me that Brad only considers the evidence that supports his training beliefs . The problem with scientific evidence especially meta analyses is that the pre conceived notions and biases of the reviewer tend to skew the results / conclusions that are arrived at .