
Owen Dockham
Can you really grow your strength training business into a $1-million studio with little to no advertising?
Owen Dockham did just that with Live Oak Strength, and he returns (finally!) to the podcast to talk about how he did it, and how you can do it as well.
We go over things like how to make minimal marketing work, how to keep your clients engaged and happy, managing trainers, trimming the fat from your business model (that one’s a big one), and how to pick the biggest levers to pull so your business can grow faster than you first thought it could.
If you want to know how someone who never started out to be a fitness professional could do so well, go so far, and get to a million in a realistic way that you can absolutely follow, this conversation with Owen is something you shouldn’t miss!
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Show Notes
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00:52 – If you want to be successful, be useful
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03:41 – Before the million-dollar studio: Owen’s story
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07:12 – On learning about HIT and finding success
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13:03 – The light-bulb moment: Body by Science
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15:57 – When Owen was a Piano Teacher
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17:01 – On feeling lost in life and then turning it around
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20:08 – On growing Live Oak Strength and managing 5 trainers
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23:26 – On hiring trainers and getting them to fit in
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27:38 – How Owen grew his business with barely any marketing
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32:46 – How you operate can attract certain types of clients
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39:36 – The value of checking in with your clients and how to operationalize your brand’s good reputation
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48:41 – The power of specific feedback
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51:53 – How Owen Dockham does client workouts
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55:51 – On selling clients “confidence”
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57:48 – Live Oak Strength’s “brand” of HIT
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1:02:03 – Why Live Oak Strength stopped doing nutrition
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1:07:55 – Would Owen ever do small group training?
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1:10:21 – What are some big mistakes do some HIT people do?
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1:15:03 – Where you can get resources on doing BNI
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1:18:27 – The value of Emotional Intelligence for trainers
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1:21:19 – On having the right mindset and a “can-do” attitude
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1:26:21 – Owen’s advice on being successful, in a nutshell
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1:28:42 – Lawrence analyzes what he thinks makes Owen successful
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1:33:19 – On overcoming challenges as you go through life
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1:36:37 – How being a parent has changed Owen’s view of success
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1:40:47 – Owen’s parting advice you if you want to be successful in HIT and in life
Note: these are the timestamps for the audio edition. For the video edition’s timestamps, please see the YouTube description box for this episode.
People Mentioned & Selected Links from this Episode
- Owen Dockham | Live Oak Strength | HIB Episodes
- HIB 129 – Owen Dockham – How To Network To Grow Your Strength Training Business Fast
- Jim Collins | Official Website | Good to Great (book) | Built to Last (book) | How the Mighty Fall (book)
- Peter Drucker | Drucker Institute
- Zig Ziglar | Ziglar Inc.
- Diane Sanfilippo | Practical Paleo (book)
- Bauman College
- Dr. Doug McGuff | Official Website | Ultimate Exercise Studio | Body by Science (book) | The Body by Science Q&A Book | HIB Episodes
- David DeSisto
- Skyler Tanner | Official Website | HIB Episodes
- Dr. Bryce Lee | StrengthSpace | HIB Episodes
- Dr. James Fisher | Dr. Fisher on Research Gate | HIB Episodes
- Blair Wilson | MedX Precision Fitness | HIB Episodes
- Chuck Bixby | Official Website | HIB Episode
- Anthony Sandbothe | On Instagram | Sandbothe Strong | HIB Episode
- Cal Newport | Official Website | Deep Work (book) | Slow Productivity (book) | Deep Questions (podcast)
- Doug Holland on Instagram | HIB Episodes
- Luke Carlson | Official Website | Luke on Instagram | Discover Strength | Discover Strength Franchise | HIB Episodes
- HIB 545 – The 21 Habits, Behaviors, and Decisions That Kill Revenue Growth in Strength Training Businesses (featuring Luke Carlson)
- Voltaire
- BNI – Business Networking International | HIB Episode
- WellnessLiving (software)

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