
Steve McKinney
What if the secret to growing your strength studio wasn’t just more ads or longer days, but the right mix of sharp marketing, tight client session management, and smart training choices?
Fitness and More Founder Steve McKinney returns to talk about his surprisingly strict 15-minute sessions, how he manages his daily activities while maintaining discipline and happiness, and how he keeps clients happy and coming back for more — regardless of any “good” or “bad” workouts!
Plus, we talk about how the right paid ads can give you incredible bang-for-your-buck leads, managing overly talkative clients, preventing and managing shoulder and arm injuries, adapting to and optimizing on your strengths and weaknesses, and more.
If you’ve ever felt stuck or slowly slipping downwards in your strength training business and in life, then this episode with Steve can give you the boost you need to get back on track.
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Show Notes
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00:36 – Visiting the TNT Strength guys (Jess and Liam) and Owen Dockham (Live Oak Strength)
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04:33 – Results from running Meta ads and Google ads simultaneously
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05:42 – Session pricing based on location
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06:12 – When Liam and Steve visited Alcatraz
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07:39 – Comparing Meta ads and Google Ads
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10:24 – If you’re this passionate, you’ll never work a day in your life
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14:25 – Steve talks about his books
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15:17 – Business lessons learned from TNT Strength and Live Oak Strength
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16:23 – Steve on session length and client communication
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17:28 – How Steve balances engaging clients and not letting them run over session times with chit-chat
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21:36 – How many sessions does Steve do every day (and how is he still alive)?
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23:08 – On time management, daily routines, and being super disciplined
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26:13 – Steve’s unexpected tricep injury
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27:56 – On his personal workouts, cardio, and managing injuries
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30:24 – On interpreting soreness and trying to prevent strain
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34:01 – On adjusting your training as you get older
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35:11 – A training approach that can help heal injured shoulders
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36:42 – On understanding your strengths and weaknesses
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39:27 – On not letting fear hold you back from executing
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41:40 – The power of properly focusing on one thing at a time
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45:56 – The Gospel of Fitness
Note: these are the timestamps for the audio edition. For the video edition’s timestamps, please see the YouTube description box for this episode.
People Mentioned & Selected Links from this Episode
- Steve McKinney | On Facebook | Fitness and More | The Gospel of Fitness (book) | HIB Episodes
- TNT Strength | TNT Podcast
- Owen Dockham | Live Oak Strength | EverStrongSF | HIB Episodes
- Dr. Ellington Darden | Dr. Darden on Amazon | On Google Books | The New High-Intensity Training (book)
- Brian D. Johnston | HIB Episodes
- Blaine Duesing | Blain’s HIT (Facebook group)
- Ken Hutchins | SuperSlow | Serious Exercise | Ren-Ex | Books by Ken Hutchins
- Dr. Jordan B. Peterson | 12 Rules For Life (book) | Beyond Order (book)

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